I have some bare dirt sections where a lot of dust flies so I think the beefier air filter (and engine) on the Vanguard will be worth it. Hustler fixed all the issues with the Raptor series with the new XD. And, it is worth the extra for the IKON XL. Thanks for the response. I feel like I cant afford to buy the wrong mower, especially at these prices. I have the Mulching kit installed but I cannot keep the deck from getting gummed up with clippings. Chews up small twigs from trees like nothing. Its the Capital one Savor Card, google it if interested in the promo. Several years ago you helped me purchase my Craftsman Pro Series 42 riding mower. Thanks in advance. 60 inch Standon ZTRs (my favorite) can handle slopes because if you get in trouble you just step off the mower and let it slide down the slope. I know the Pro Z might be a little much for a residential mower but Im willing to pay $1400 more for the upgraded mower, providing the Kohler Motor is reliable and the transmission with charge pumps will add longer life to transmissions. Fabricated Deck 24 HP Kawasaki FS Series Engine with Front Wheel SuspensionAvailable at, Cub Cadet Ultima ZTX4 54 in. EL Mehdi (Medi), the founder and voice behind Desired Lawn Mower. I like some of the stuff on the zt1, like the larger tires, the lights, my kids really like the looks of it, (they say it reminds them of bumblebee from the transformers movies), but Ive been reading about owners having problems with deck vibrations, so Im leery about getting it. The Bad Boy MZ Magnum zero-turn mower runs on a 725cc Kohler Pro 7000 HD series engine for a powerful mowing operation. Hi Paul. Now I just have to find one!! Hey Paul, Very informative article! 5. For years they sold a contractor grade engine that was $300 cheaper than the rest and it held up well so even though theyve raised their prices many small owner/operators still want the name. In fact you can buy the new 2020 50 (127 cm) TimeCutter Zero Turn Mower (75750) for less money. My only concerns with the Boulevard are that the deck adjustment is clunky (I might not change deck height much, anyway), and the armrest blocks my view of the controls (which are easy enough to navigate by feel, once familiar with them). Im thinking its ok to go stamped since I dont commercially mow. They were also the first to use OHV across the entire line so they were more fuel-efficient and quieter. Only the Timecutter has it. I personally dont like baggers because they are big, bulky, and hard to store so I mulch the leaves and then pick up whats left with a high-speed sweeper. Deck: 42" (107 cm) Engine: Toro Commercial V-Twin 708cc. You and Consumer Reports make me think the Toro MX5075 would be great. We are looking for something with good construction and good cut with reasonable price point. We need a new mower and at our Husky dealership they had a Rhomba like battery mower that can do up to a 35% grade. Which one is better and is it worth the money to get the ikon xl? Thanks for your help! Fab 22.5 HP V-Twin Gas Zero-Turn Riding Mower with Smart Speed is over your budget. There is no performance difference. If your yard is littered with spine-shattering bumps, youd be grateful for the Toro MyRide system created to have you floating on clouds when running over malicious bumps. I cant tell if this mower is any less stable on the hillside. I would like a mower with a long life-expectancy that is fast and dependable, cuts down on our extensive weed-eating, and wont fall apart when/if we mow the ditch or pull a cart or lawn sweeper. Thank you for your input! Keep it in a shed, out of the weather and you wont have to buy another mower, ever! (and may be included). Zero-turn Steering Wheel. Your site here and responsiveness is some of the best I have seen in my researching journey. Theres no safety feature for damages on this model since the machine is made averagely for expert and professional use. Never had a ZTR, but I was initially leaning ZTR (looking at Spartan and Hustler SDX) UNTIL I stumbled on the Bradley Stand on in the same price range! thanks. I just want to make the best choice I am not stuck on any one brand. Kohler engine. Hi Eric, The Toro rides better the Gravely is a heavier built machine. However, Im wondering if either of these would be substantially easier to work on for basic maintenance (oil/filter changes, blade sharpening, etc. There are two models that are within your budget. Hi Paul your opinion on a Bad Boy 54 Maverick I have a lumpy 2 acres and hilly and my back is not good. Motor repair on commercial mowers can range anywhere from $1000-$4000 for 60-inch commercial zero-turn. Fab 22.5 HP V-Twin Gas Zero-Turn Riding Mower with Smart Speed, Toro TimeCutter HD 48 in. EZT transmissions will hold up to regular mowing on normal slopes. Other fuels stabilizers to check out: Fuel Stabilizers. Most cost $8000 and up. And because Ive had good luck with my Deere/Kohler and I feel less enthusiastic about the Briggs, Im leaning towards the Cub. Want the best bang for the buck, if I am going to spend 12 to 17 grand for a mower. The Compacts (all brands) are only for small residential flat areas that have gates you have to deal with. Whats your thought on the John Deere Z355E? Looks like the stripes would be off with the deck hanging out past the wheels so far. What would be your advise for a mostly level 2 acre lawn but use to be an old farm crop filed that is pretty rough? Out of the apex and mz61 which one would have the overall better quality and longevity and have the best cut quality. What do you say? Warren, RI, Hi Mike, I knew you would like it! Hi Joe, I want to start off and say Im not picking on you this comment has to do with the industry as a whole. I have two in mind. Greg, That is a tough call to make. Personally, I use Mobil One in all my engines and Ive never had an engine failure on any of my gas powered equipment, cars or trucks. Quality of cut is secondary, because it is a rough country yard. Ive been hearing good things about the g5 gator blades but havent found a fit for the new ultima models. The only mention I find from a few owners with this deck is vibration at low RPMs. Thanks for the information. Have used it less than 6 times since. 2. auto docking. A good size for snow blowers and push mowers. A lot of great reviews online / Pro landscapers rave about build/cut/speed The for the advice Paul. For a rugged mower for two acres, I like the Ariens IKON XL and Ariens APEX at the Home Depot. I also read on your previous comments to another user that it provides the best cut, bag, mulch, and side discharge. Thanks. Im looking for a new mower to handle about an acre of gently sloped (about 10 degrees in spots) yard and am seriously considering going for a ZTR mower. Id have them around my place but my wife says we have enough pets. Paul, I am looking for a zero turn mower for a yard that is about 2.75 acres. By the way, is that cub cadet engine in a ZT1 it must be a previous year because this years model has the Kohler 7000 series (also a good engine) Personally if I have a choice Ill pick the Kaw first and then the Toro engine. I suggest you deeply highlight your requirements only, not your dealers or neighbors. The mulch kit is also semi-permanent. Most components are identical but the decks are slightly different. 1.5 plus acre yard, mostly flat but bumpy enough to hammer 3 lawn tractors to death in 20 years. The Toros controls are further back than the Country Clipper. Yes, when you read the lawnmowers forums and talk to dealers Kawasaki does appear more popular. John Deere, Toro, or Cub Cadet. There is a ditch at 1 end and a hill/easement at the other. Of the 40 or so mowers from the different brands in this size range, its average. It uses the residential grade ZT2200 transmissions so if you mow a lot, have hills or need a heavy duty mower I suggest moving up to the Alpha MP or larger. I have both brands and I use them all the time. 22.5 HP Toro TimeCutter. Whats odd, the closest dealer that stocks the mower I want is 50 miles away. Because it has a Smart Speed control that lets you pull carts without damaging your transmissions. The Toro fab deck cuts better and the Toro will also pull more but overall the Cub Cadet is one of my top choices for a 42-inch ZTR. The governor on the Kohler is a little more responsive when mowing tall, heavy grass. I can get on and off without the rail, but it involves using the deck as a step, which the dealer says is fine. This ensures maximum comfort and a reduced level of fatigue for you after a hectic day. Please wish me and my wallet luck! To get a ZTR heavy enough to hang on that slope you need to be in the $6000 plus range. Paul, Being disabled money isnt coming in like it used to be but my back is very sensitive so wondering if it is worth the extra cash? Hi Trent, It will finish mow at 8 mph and if you dont need a perfect cut it will mow at 10 mph. That Cub did have the same exact engine. The entire weight is on the foot pedal instead. Hi Ryan, I too have a lot of leaves. Paul, I am considering an upgrade to a zero turn and would appreciate your input. Just remember, if you mow that way your mower deck can throw a baseball 600 feet so make sure all debris, kids toys, rocks, and garbage are picked up before you mow. The mower will be used for residential 5 plus acres. What direction would you lean? In other words, you will only get about 2-4 years out of it. Im not sure if he does anything different with the Scag. The IKON XL and the Toro MyRide are much better choices. Im wondering if you think its best to 1. Looking around at other manufacturers They are all charging $800-$1100 for the ZT 2800 trannys over the ZT 2200. Fab 24.5 HP V-Twin Gas Dual Hydrostatic Zero Turn Riding Mower, Toro TimeCutter MX6050 60 in. I also like the toro my ride and ariens ikon x john deere and cub cadet ultima. Just not sure if I should look for a ZTR that is heavy, one that has wide tires, etc. Its built like a tank, rides well and cuts very well. Thanks in advance for all your help! With the deck removed grab the ends of a blade and wiggle the blade side to side (up and down in relation to the deck) If it wiggles more than 1/16 of an inch tighten the spindle bolts. Walker Model R. Either the 42 or 48-inch deck but the 48 will give you the best trimming capabilities. Check Latest Price. There a many good brands but Ive used SeaFoam for years and its always worked well. )http://bit.ly/33SoBfxVideo Produced by LCR Mediahttp://goo.gl/k74ynQCheck out my new Playlist: \"Get to Know the Pro\"https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7KDtpEoklPeiKu2Kswm_BDoed91D2SufI interview Lawn and Landscape Pros, known and unknown, Rookies and Veterans. I have had a few power toys like 4 wheelers and things with engines made in China that havent held up. I live in south Alabama and have some pretty tough grass/weeds. But at the end of the day its irrelevant the Bradley looks more than durable enough on its own,. It one of the best riding ZTRs on the market. The Cub Cadet ZTX4 is also a great mower. The dealer will be glad to sharpen and balance them while its in for the tune-up. They revised it and its now called the EDGE. And the transmissions are not strong enough to pull that cart with more than 200 lbs in it. They just run the snot out of them and once the lease is up buy another new one. Do you recommend I go with a 42 inch or 50 inch deck zero turn? Finally, check out my youtube channel. It appears Cud Cadet has tried to up their game with the big boys. He doesnt expect Jonsered riding mowers to be around for very long. They are not designed to cleanly cut tall overgrowth. Worldlawn 52 diamondback I was looking at the exmark radius 48 but they dont offer the kawasaki engine with them, do you know anything about those engines that exmark is using in their radius mowers. Belts, blades, steering dampeners, bearings, idler pulleys, front wheel bearings, new tires, clutch repair etc., are all 2-3 times more expensive than your current residential machine. In comparison, the Timecutter is much more easily adjustable; theres a paddle at the bottom front of the seat for fast and easy adjustments so that you sit comfortably with enough foot space. At The Home Depot Toro TimeCutter MX5000 50 in. What Im looking for: Reliability, ease of maintenance, attaching and detaching bagging and mulching kit, cut, easy to handle, one user, 42 deck, budget around $3k and willing to spend around $1k for accessories (mulch kit and bag) Being a small yards I doubt I would benefit much from features or comfort so thats not important. John Deere probably had the most mixed reviews of all, either people loved them or hated them. Hi Tommy, My first choice for mowing one acre and pulling a cart is the 42 in. (Its been flawless) It also has a fabricated 42-inch deck. I appreciate your suggestion, and I am going to check out the Gravely ZTRs this week, at my local dealer. The only real difference is the deck. It will give you 2 3 x the life with less breakdowns and problems. lol I was originally thinking the Toro 75742 or cubcadet ULTIMA ZT1-42 solely based on customer reviews and price but now Im wondering if I should spend the extra to get the Toro 75755 due to the MyRide. Run the proper tire inflation or 2 lbs less in the rear and it will ride well. Anti scalp wheels have greased bearings. In the past week, I have talked to a few local dealers; Cub Cadet, Toro, and Gravley/Ariens. I considered the battery-powered Ryobi briefly for its quieter operation, but as of now I think Ill wait to ensure the battery technology is up to par, and save on the upfront costs. Will those help with preventing the deck from getting clogged? My front yard is fairly steep with an 18 degree grade. The Radius E is the entry-level commercial Exmark. But none of them add another year warranty like Gravely does. Hi Tommy, The 2200 is not as weak as everyone wants you to believe. It has a great engine, heavy-duty transmissions, and a great cutting deck. Recap: willing 2 spend 6-7k. It has the upgraded Toro IronForged fabricated deck. Its been more helpful than you know! I have 2 acres to mow and Ive most recently tried out a Ferris IS600z. The Boulevard is one of the best-built residential mowers on the market. It flips up the easiest and fastest in fact, its easy enough to use that you can park it in your garage with the deck flipped up to save room. Hi Sean, I really dont have a preference. I really like the cut of the fabricated deck on the Toro MyRide. The shelter for the elderly homeless (where I live and work) has about 2 1/2 acres of mostly flat, open land to mow. So, every young kid who was getting into the lawn mowing business bought the Kaw because they were cheaper. Was curious your thoughts on a Bad Boy MZ Magnum 54 vs brands in your top models? It had been great mower but I am frustrated. I would never pay more for a Kawasaki FR than I would for a Kohler 7000. Thanks for your opinion on my choices. The machine runs at a capital speed of 8.5 mph, which is more than enough for its class of purpose. It all seems easy enough for me to do it, but its got a 3 yr warranty so what is the best practice? We have John Deere, Hustler, Bad Boy, Kubota, Husqvarna, and Grasshopper dealers, as well as stores such as Lowes, Home Depot, and Tractor Supply which carry other brands. Walk-Behind Push Lawn Mowers: Toro vs. Husqvarna Thanks again. (about $2699) This is a great, inexpensive mower and I know it will last years: Check it out here. Appreciate all the help! The Toro engine is developing a stellar reputation. I guess I am just asking if you have any knowledge of this mower that you can share. I then considered a Hustler Raptor SDX (cost too high) and the MZ54 Husqvarna (user reviews pretty negative). Fab 24.5 HP V-Twin Gas Dual Hydrostatic Zero Turn Riding Mower or The Ariens company also makes the Gravely ZT XL. I have a 1.5 acre country lot with some 10 degree slopes and trees to maneuver around. However, based on some of your previous reviews, it seems that I would probably need to be looking at a higher end garden tractor with a robust transmission and motor. But he also has the commercial Toro. Thank you very much! Since you will buy this from a dealer ask a mechanic to show you how to level the deck. I am very new into this arena and have always cut with a walk behind. If you replace the bracket replace the spring at the same time. Deck Of John Deere Vs Toro Zero Turn. I suggest stopping in to a local dealer and see what they have in the $6000-$9000 range. Well we got the E170 and its a great mower but took forever to mow the lawn and sucked almost a tank of gas. Appreciate the in depth insight on the towing/tongue weight. Hi Paul, Small ZTRS like the Ariens compact should NEVER be operated on any kind of slope. I am looking at a 60 Toro Z Master 2000 with 708cc 24.5 HP V Twin Toro Commercial Engine. Will wait and see. The difference between 10 ga (9/64 inch) and 11 ga (1/8 inch)is less than the thickness of a sheet of paper. If the grass has too much water in it they actually shred the grass not cut it and leave little grass balls all over your lawn. $4399 $3499 = $900. Having a really hard time deciding between the two if I make the jump from a 42 to the 50/52. Hi James, The John Deere uses both the Intek and the ELS Briggs engines in various mowers. I really feel you are paying extra for the green paint compared to the Toro or even the Cub Cadet. Greetings Paul The decks just dont have the depth the commercial decks have to hold the grass and recut it well. Hi Kathy, I list ZTRs from the big box stores because many people today want to buy online (and I make a little commission off the sale) That said, You will get a better experience buying from a dealer. My local Country Clipper only has a new 2018 Boulevard and a used 2016 Boulevard with 38.5 hours on the meter. Price-wise the Gravely is more but you get proportionately more. Fab 24.5 HP V-Twin Gas Zero-Turn Riding Mower with Smart Speed. Ill make a small commission from the sale. For either of the above options, is a ROPS available? The Toro TimeCutter HD series zero turn riders are a nice step up from the standard Toro TimeCutter SS or TimeCutter MX series mowers. Gator blades are a better solution than the stock mulching blades but they will also have problems with spring grass or tall grass. I also like the Gravely/Ariens in that price range. Hi Scott, Thank you for your support! Ive done extensive research, and my head is spinning. In all seriousness, thank you for helping me cull out the Deere and the Hustler, The Bradley is probably just too much of a pipe dream considering the distance to any dealer and fear of swimming that far from shore without a life jacket. What model should i be looking at for a rough and hilly yard? Now I have a cub cadet rzt 50 inch to mow about 3 acres. Thanks for all the great info here. I sat on the Cub and found my right knee may hit the lap-bar when using the deck-lift peddle even though the bars adjust. 2. If you have to sit on the seat to start the mower there is an electrical pressure switch inside the seat. I do my best to not mow wet grass and usually remove no more than 1 inche in a mow. Many repair shops carry a cheaper belt, although the same size, that is not designed for use on heat-generating engines. Comparing Gravely ZT HD 52 vs Toro Timecutter HD, . Hi Mike, The Ariens APEX and Gravely ZT HD are the same mower (just different paint) so if you have a Gravely dealer you may get a better price than the Ariens. I plan on being here long term and dont have any equipment as of now. Its a heavy-duty mower and is stronger than the TimeCutter series so it will last mowing your lawn. Ive been tasked with researching the options. The Ikon XLs blades will last 3-5 years or longer and youll only need to sharpen them once a year. In your case I suggest the Gravely. Based on your article, I am considering the Toro MX5075 MyRide and the Arins IKON XL 52. Hydro-Gear ZT 3100 transmission. Paul. Hi Glen, if stripes are your thing and it doesnt do the best for you Gravely does make a stripe kit for that deck (Ariens and Gravely are the same). I think I have a truly fun exercise for you with a varied list of contenders. Its the same mower as the IKON XD with the stronger ZT 2800 transmissions. It costs more than the Raptor because it has a few extra features like arm rests. It is developing a stellar reputation. I was thinking of the Toro Timecutter 75742. I also have a chance to purchase a used exmark Z series for 4K with about 900 hours , but the concern over buying used as someone who isnt familiar with engines is a bit scary? I prefer the Walker. So now I am wanting to look for a machine that is between 42-60 inches, floating deck, deck lifts up for easy blade replacement/clean and performs well for lawn cutting/orchard. Thanks for your time Once again thank you for all the help and insight into the ZTR world! I went and looked at it last Saturday and got to drive it around the parking lot. A bagger is big, semi-permanent and expensive. Even the engines are the same. You mentioned that there are more than 500 models of mowers out there, so it would be impossible to review them all, but I would like to see what you have to say about the Ultima ZT2 50 compared to the two Jonsered riding lawn mowers sold by Costco https://www.costco.com/CatalogSearch?dept=All&keyword=Jonsered. Q: How hot do these transmissions get? It mows really well and is a very dependable mower. I am looking at Scag Liberty z 48 and Bobcat ZT2000 48, Both look fairly similar. Both have heavy-duty fabricated decks and Kohler/Kawasaki engines. Are you familiar with or have you had experience with this Toro model? Red or Yellow. The John Deere 345r and the new Cub Cadet Ultima mowers are the best right now for bagging. Hi T. Dan, Feel free to stop by anytime and tell us how the Jonsered is working out. Skag, Ferris, ExMark and Walker are on the heavy price point side for similar specs in these others (at least thats my interpretation of what Im reading). Jeff. We walk you through each machine and will let you. The usage will be 2-5 acres Texas Gulf Coast, mostly flat, no big slopes but some shallow ditches, some trees/obstacles, mostly turf grasses but with some rougher stuff. They have two that I recommend. The cut was great and the ride was pretty comfortable for a not so even yard. ZTRs 42 Country Clipper was one of the first brands to make zero-turn mowers for other brands. The full suspension platform on the Radius would be really nice for mowing your rougher area. (cost divided by the years of use) 2-3 years for the lawn tractor, 3-5 years for the Jonsered zero-turn and 10 years for the Ultima. Being a taller guy, fitting on a lower end residential zero-turn can sometimes be a challenge. Most powerful engine of the group - 25HP 724cc Briggs. The Toro has the Smartspeed and is great for trimming, hauling, and learning how to drive the mower. Im not sure which is more important for stability when turning on the hill. Do you have a local dealer who can get those parts for a Jonsered? 6. More recently, he has been showing up with a Scag zero turn, with a slightly larger deck. My current seat does not have (that I can find) any electrical connections and a seated person is required to start the mower. Hi Kirk, if you want the best cut possible get the Deere. p.s. In my opinion, the Iron-Forged deck cuts a lot better than the stamped deck on the model you mentioned. My second choice is the Ariens IKON XL. Gravely ZT X 52 with Kawasaki engine $3499 I do have a fence, trees and a few other yard obstacles. My craftsman mower that recently died on me did a far superior job with the mulching. It cuts so well I use it as my reference mower when comparing all the rest. The models I list here cut great, bag well and have great parts and service networks. One last question, my dealer also carries the ExMark line, in addition to the Toro and Ariens I mentioned above. ft. Tow-Behind Lawn Sweeper. They side discharge and mulch better than all the other brands. Ariens IKON XD with Kaw engine $3299. It is a yard in the country, not a city lawn. Im leaning towards a 42 inch deck for either mower I choose. Just the Toro has that extra feature. Also, Id consider the CC RZT42S. I will have to think hard about the collection aspect I am seeking. Bad Boy MZ Magnum, 54 in. Is it okay to buy from BB stores if you take good care of the machine? The price is $5k which is within my budget and about what I would probably spend on a new 60 mower. 679 cc Fuel Injected (EFI) V-Twin Engine Dual Hydro Gas ZeroTurn Riding Mower with Steering Wheel Control, https://service.webec.husqvarna.net/documents/HUSO/HUSO2020_NAen/HUSO2020_NAen__1141841-95.pdf, https://service.webec.husqvarna.net/documents/HUSO/HUSO2020_NAenNAesNAfrLApt/HUSO2020_NAenNAesNAfrLApt__1140537-38.pdf, Toro Timecutter HD 48 inch at the Home Depot, Toro TimeCutter MX5075 with MyRIDE Suspension, Toro TimeCutter MX5075 with MyRIDE Suspension System 50 in. The deck is a lot stronger than the stamped deck and will handle banging against tree roots, etc. Funny you should ask. I understand the Timecutter coming in both the SS and MX models but the one I am getting delivered this week is the 2014 Toro Titan ZX5400 model . Its not a popular brand and I dont know anyone who actually owns one meaning I dont know enough about it to tell you if its good or bad. Best ride and cut NOT as important as longevity and ease of maintenance. I need something that will handle the cutting duties without leaving rows of grass clipping or mohawks. The range of difference of each mower model is dependent on deck sizes or your dealer. It has a normal seat but with the large front and rear tires, it really rides well. heavier deck, and stronger transmissions. I dont recommend lawn tractors for slopes over 15 degrees. Universal Suspension SEAT KIT for Lawn Mowers. I lived in a condo that took care of the yard for 9 years so I havent mowed in almost a decade. I would not expect any other issues in the next 1500 hours. Some of the mowers you recommend are not sold by dealers in my area (or at least highly recommended dealers), only big box stores. Both have deep 42 stamped steel decks 12 gauge on the Deere and 13 gauge on the Cub, and they both pretty much have the features I want, except the Cub doesnt have arm rests. In my opinion, this is the lowest price point you should go for what you want to mow. Our turn-tight craftsman mower has been OK, but I really think that a zero turn would improve our efficiency cutting this yard. If you decide on the Gravely, wait until March 20-28. https://www.bradleymowers.com/products/bradley-52-stand-on-compact-mower-briggs-commercial-turf?taxon_id=5. Anyway, just stumbled upon a "Toro Time-Cutter 42" 1642Z 16HP Briggs & Stratton Zero Turn Riding Model #74330 Mower" on facebook marketplace for $1,150. 1. If you have any questions or problems your local dealer will be glad to help you. PLEASE ADVISE. Here is my review: Cub Cadet hauler Ill put a picture below. I am in need a smoother more comfortable ride that doesnt brake my back every time I mow..Good ideas for a ZTR mower with suspension? This machine was a beast. It is fairly rough ground and has two moderately steep areas. The engine is equipped with enough power to withstand that sort of duty. Many smaller commercial owners are using the Patriot and it holds up to 10 acres a day every day use. The second choice is the Scag Tiger II. Thanks for all your informative responses. Previous post Next post. Even though the Ultima is twice the cost of the tractor it will win when you look at the real cost of ownership especially for using it commercially. I'm thinking in the 50 inch range. The quality control for many of those power sports engines is all over the map or non-existent. The Kubota is overpriced for what you get. The most important thing to me besides the bagger is reliability. The Model R is a culmination of over 40 years of commercial experience. I was able to cut some grass at an ariens dealer with the Ikon x 52. In the bulleted info points about the Toro above it reads: . Thats very helpful. I enjoy mowing regularly (so Im looking forward to the fun of a ZTR). My problem is that most dealers are out of stock right now, so I need to make a choice without actually testing one myself. Thanks Paul! Because of the number of trees on the property, I feel like a lawn tractor would end up increasing the amount of time it takes me to mow over my current self-propelled mower so Im looking at ZTRs. Thank you for your time! and the picture! Thanks, He's also an entrepreneur who owns and manages multiple helpful websites. Toro is aimed more towards residential and government use. Q: What are your thoughts about transmissions with and without charge pumps? 6. The ZT 3400 with charge pumps has no o-ring issues. I do think Ill like the wider rear tires on the Deere though. Do you have a preference between those 2? Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Hi Wilson, Wow, what a wonderful list to work with! Im neutral about the Liberty Z. Sorry for the long back story, but I thought it was important to provide as much detail as possible. 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